"stoney" <stoney@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> skrev i en meddelelse
news:p7gsa419cpa6h0qss8d48oemeuok53s93l@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Tue, 12 Aug 2008 21:19:38 +0200, "thomas p." <gudloos@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
> Message ID: <48a1e248$0$56773$edfadb0f@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in
> alt.atheism;
>
>>
>>"stoney" <stoney@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> skrev i en meddelelse
>>news:o6b3a41h8q3hcsgejm1e150idqq402ptgo@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 03:19:07 GMT, Douglas Berry
>>> <penguin_boy@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>, Message ID:
>>> <nlsf84drq43rhs9qgnhdqo74745scpqqsv@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in alt.atheism;
>>>
>>>>On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 18:10:36 +0100 "Katt" <kahgfghttt@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> carved
>>>>the following into the hard stone of alt.atheism
>>>>>Saw this somewhere and wondered if it's actually accurate...
>>>>>-----
>>>>>"Wa****ngton and its apologists continually insist that the US is 'not
>>>>>an
>>>>>imperial power'. Yet of the 192 supposedly 'sovereign' states
>>>>>recognised
>>>>>by
>>>>>the United Nations, no fewer than *133* have a US military presence
--
>>>>>which, in each and every case, the population was not consulted
about;
>>>>>did
>>>>>not vote for; and cannot choose to remove..."
>>>>
>>>>Define "military presence" Does this count USMC Embassy Guards? The US
>>>>Navy weather stations in Greenland? Two field grade officers and a
>>>>small staff posted to Outer Wayouttherestan to train locals on the
>>>>equipment their government has bought? How about US troops taking part
>>>>in UN or NATO missions? Troops get around, and some of these presences
>>>>are as simple as US troops attending training in a nation.
>>>>
>>>>Oh, a short list of nations having a military presence in the US:
>>>>
>>>>Germany.
>>>>Canada.
>>>>The United Kingdom.
>>>>Japan.
>>>>Saudi Arabia.
>>>>Jordan.
>>>>Egypt.
>>>>Republic of Korea.
>>>>
>>>>All these have a significant number of troops assigned inside the US
>>>>at any given time. Germany maintains an entire Luftwaffe squadron at
>>>>Holloman AFB for training
>>>
>>> George AFB in Victorville, CA., had a full Luftwaffe squadron for
>>> training until it closed. Americans did all the maintenance.
Although
>>> I was in the other wing, I was asked to install an advanced comm
system
>>> on their flightline and sit in on their TCTO {Time Compliance
Technical
>>> Order {{system maintenance modification meetings}}
>>
>>(piggybacking here)
>>One observation about the above. The US, just like any other nation,
is
>>far from perfect, but there is no reason to make up claims such as: "no
>>fewer than *133* have a US military presence -- which, in each and every
>>case, the population was not consulted about; did
>>not vote for; and cannot choose to remove..." Almost all of the nations
>>he
>>mentioned are functioning democracies. The freely elected governments
>>have
>>the right to cancel agreements with the US.
>
> Since when do facts matter to blatherers?
For a long time I have had the feeling that most people have a set of
doctrines secular or religious, and they will not or are not able to
tolerate anything that calls them into question. Perhaps all of us are
like
that to a lesser or greater degree.
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