Blunt and Opaque wrote:
>John Palmer dixit:
>>Kai Jones wrote:
>>>It's really hard for me to believe that you don't have ideals you
>>>aspire to but don't meet, because that's what the cheating
>>>monogamists are doing, and I do it to, just not on the same subject.
>>>I mean, I want to be a better person than I am, and I think being,
>>>for example, honest and trustworthy, dependable and timely, generous
>>>and kind are all good things; and yet I don't always achieve those
>>>things. Does that make me not a person who is striving for them?
>
>>>As far as excusing their own missteps, that's just a human thing.
>>>Doesn't mean they don't still believe the ideal is worthy.
>
>>No, but it would lead me to believe that they merely profess to
>>believe that the ideal is worthy, or that their belief isn't all that
>>strong/meaningful.
>
>>This doesn't mean I'd be correct in that belief, but I'm not sure that
>>being correct would matter to me. "Oh, s/he really, really believes in
>>(not) doing X, but she probably can't be trusted to (not) do X" means
>>that only the second clause is really relevant to my interactions with
>>that person.
>
> I expect everyone to be fallible. I don't trust *anyone* to do or not
> do as they profess. More often than not, I've found (in my own
> behavior as well as in observing others) that the things we care about
> most are also the things we're conflicted about, that we struggle
> with.
yep yep, that exactly, which is why when i find something
in someone else that drives me buggy i try to figure out where
i am at myself with that thing. usually opens up all sorts of
areas of possible work to be done.
> The angel on one shoulder comes with a devil on the other shoulder.
as long as they both know how to rub i'm good.
songbird


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