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"Non scrivetemi" <Use-Author-Supplied-Address-Header@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> On Wed, 26 Apr 2006, Jack Crenshaw <jcrens@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> >Consider this a serious inquiry; no Stephen King stories, no made-up
> >stories, just the real deal.
> >I know that many of the stories told here are just that: Stories, told
> >to entertain and to frighten. We sometimes enjoy being frightened, in
> >the same sense that we like roller-coaster rides.
> >What I'm talking about is not fantasy or imagination. I'm talking
about
> >real, honest, encounters.
> >My question is simple: What the heck do you think is going on? What
are
> >these thingies? Products of runaway imaginations? Spirits of people
> >who have "crossed over"? Demons? (Angels?) What?
> >As a scientist (physics), I know that I'm only supposed to believe in
> >what's real; what I can hold in my hand, can write an equation for, can
> >perform experiments on. I also know that I can't explain having
shared,
> >entirely unwillingly, three houses with ghosts.
> >Most of the time, I manage to put the experiences out of my mind, and
go
> >on with my life. Once in awhile, I wonder just how ghosts and Newton's
> >laws can possibly share the same universe.
> >I would genuinely like your genuine opinions/thoughts. No flames,
please.
> >
My own experience suggests that "ghosts" are for the most part
non-volitional energy traces left by heavily charged and/or
repeated actions. They don't interact with people because there's
nobody there to interact with, essentially, only a repeating pattern of
some past action or feeling etc. Superstitious people sometimes project
all sorts of stuff onto them and imagine interactions, but for the most
part it's like encountering a tape recording of something that happened
a while ago (maybe quite a long while). They can have influences on
living people in the sense of making us feel unsettled or threatened,
particularly since the more active ones can draw energy from the living
(hence the famous "cold" spots associated with hauntings), and I always
do a cleansing ritual when I occupy a new home, for example, to
encourage these tape-loops to fade away.
If you keep encountering them, that tells me that you're particularly
sensitive to them (most people are not). Could be that part of your job
in this life is, as a scientist, to turn some serious scientific enquiry
in the direction of this phenomenon, bringing something new to it plus
the scepticism + open-mindedness of the true scientist to the
exploration? Everyone can sense various kinds of paranormal effects and
so on, but most of us close off recognition because it would just be a
distraction from our primary business in life. When we do accept the
input, it may mean that dealing with it using our current strengths is
part of the program.
Good luck, in any case.
C
C
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> Personally, I believe that...
>
> Ghosts, or "spirit people", are the eternal and immortal
> souls of mortally-incarnated beings whether they be dead
> or yet living incarnate in the flesh. And while the soul,
> like God, lives forever, having no beginning & no ending,
> the physical body, in its fallen, carnal, "Adamic" state,
> is born, lives and dies in the harsh climate of its sins.
> And that's how the sons and daughters of men have had to
> be born, live, and die, for some 200,000 tropical years...
>
> This means that most of us, as souls, have lived 100s of
> physical lifetimes ever since. If this averages once per
> mundane century, that's two thousand lives in this state.
> One mortal lifetime is hard enough. Imagine 2000 of them!
>
> At the moment of physical death, most souls move quickly
> through the tunnel into the brilliant white & warm light
> of the Gods; then into the heavenly and hellish realm of
> their spiritual needs--for a time, until they get kicked
> out of heaven (e.g., Lucifer) to incarnate in a new body,
> in a new time and place generally upon the Earth, to wit.
>
> This interim for soul's purging or cleansing of the soul
> is loosely called Purgatory, although something has been
> lost in the translation from ancient to modern times. It
> is after looking forward and moving into the light, that
> this purging of soul occurs, in preparation for its next
> incarnation into the physical body. And because no man,
> no soul, is an island unto himself, itself, respectively,
> the circles of heaven and hell are burgeoning with souls,
> and there is much interaction among and between them--as
> needs be, with families, friends, enemies, familiars etc.
> in heaven and hell, as birds of a feather flock together.
>
> But some souls don't move into the light so quickly, and
> become trapped in Limbo. These are generally those souls
> who fell victim to unlucky, starcrossed lives and deaths,
> as well as those who were the perpetrators of evil deeds.
>
> As victims, discarnate ghosts can't help feeling resentful
> and unforgiving against whoever or whatever they attribute
> their prior severe life experiences and painful deaths to.
> They can blame their problems on God, a person, or a group.
> In other words they choose to keep looking back into their
> traumatic past, keeping them trapped in a near-earth realm
> of the low (i.e. afflicted, impure, maligned) astral plane.
>
> Similarly, the evildoers, the guilty who committed violence
> etc. against their victims without cause, they greatly fear,
> and desperately seek to postpone, the future judgment which
> awaits them, particularly once their victim(s) has forgiven
> them for their former evil deeds which caused or contributed
> to the aforesaid's suffering and/or eventual or sudden death.
>
> Thus both victim and perpetrator share their mutual places
> in the hellish realm of the low astral Limbo: one for fear
> of the past, the other for fear of the future, both wholly
> in the present. These are usually called "grounded spirits".
> More often than not these troubled souls don't even realize
> that they are physically dead. The really bad ones, those
> who committed unspeakably evil deeds in life, i.e. violent
> criminals, surrendered their humanity in life, and so they
> typify horrible, inhuman and demonic apparitions in death.
>
> Eventually, inevitably, inescapably, all souls are required
> to enter the light -- the whiteness of oblivion, -- leaving
> their former physical body and its life to the dust of time.
>
> And so the Judgment comes and the books are opened, and each
> soul reviews its former earthly existence in its crystalline
> entirety, in crystal-clear remembrance from the first breath
> of its physical life...all the way up until the death rattle.
>
> Discarnate souls who have gone through the light, whether
> they have incarnated into a new physical body yet or not,
> are usually called souls in "visitation" when encountered
> by living physical beings. Discarnate souls can visit more
> lucidly, actively and easily than most incarnate souls can.
>
> That's where an individual's psychic ability comes in, which
> of course varies widely from person to person, and from soul
> to soul, as from time to time, and from lifetime to lifetime.
> The more sovereign a soul is the better their psychic ability.
>
> It depends on which way a soul is looking as to what it sees.
> Look forward and see the future, turn around and see the past,
> all in the eternal present. Souls in visitation often visit
> the places and times of their past for the fond memories they
> cherish of a past lifetime and people they loved and enjoyed.
> Others do so out of lingering vestiges of discontent, or both.
>
> Living mortals do this in the dream state, even daydreaming,
> but seldom become lucid or super-consciously aware of what's
> going on. Sometimes, where the veil is thin, a "vortex" or
> door opens between the physically living and the physically
> dead. When this happens, it can come as much of a surprise
> and be an unsettling experience for the unwitting discarnate
> spirit person as it is to the unwitting physically-incarnate
> spirit person when they happen to cross paths or "bump" into
> each other, as it were.
>
> Enjoy!
> Daniel Joseph Min
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