"Harvey@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
" <kiwilove@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
news:Xns98019428EBFACkiwilovesomewherenz@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Daniel Joseph Min <Use-Author-Address-Header@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in
> news:C9ELA14238866.8596180556@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>> On 29 May 2006 "CurrentEvent" <CurrentEvent2003@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>Based on the teachings of the Quran, Muslims claim that the Angel
>>> Gabriel is the Holy Ghost of the gospels. And they find Luke
>>>1:26-1:35 as a proof.
>>>The best Christian response I found on the web is this: If this is
>>> true, then why did Gabriel say to Mary in verse 35, "the power of
>>>the Holy Spirit will come upon you" rather than "my power will come
>>>upon you"?
>>>I am not sure whether or not the above Christian response is
>>>convincing. But based on this logic we can say that Jesus is not
>>>referring to himself as the Son of Man in the following example verse:
>>> Mark 8:38 For whoever will be ashamed of me and of my words
>>>in this adulterous and sinful generation, the Son of Man also will be
>>>ashamed of him, when he comes in the glory of his Father with
>>>the holy angels." Why Jesus said "the Son of Man also will be ashamed
>>>of him when he comes..." rather than "I also will be ashamed
>>>of him when I come..."? If you think Jesus was referring to himself in
>>>a different way, then the same thing can said about the Angel Gabriel.
>>>So who is the Son of Man?
>>>And who is the Holy Ghost?
>>
>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>>
>> It's a good set of questions, but...
>>
>> Therein lies the conundrum. Those who feel the need--instead of
>> asking God directly--to solicit mere mortals to help them answer
>> questions about heavenly, eternal, everlasting things (i.e. those
>> who don't already *know* the veritable deathless answers to those
>> questions before they even ask, as say a savvy lawyer knows to do),
>> such souls tend to hear only what they want to hear; nothing more,
>> lest the answers burn their ears, and blind their eyes, and
>> cause them to rend their vestments in rage and anger, crying
>> "Blasphemy"!
>>
>> They think in worldly terms of the ego-self, not in heavenly terms
>> of the God-self. Jesus wants us to recognize who He is, because the
>> same eternal Light of recognition is inherent within each one
>> of us.
>>
>> My advise to you then is this. If you can't find the true answers
>> within, then surely you'll not recognize self-same answers echoing
>> from without. Truly, it takes one to know one. Would you expect to
>> recognize and comprehend answers to questions about brain
>> surgery, if you yourself are not a well-educated, experienced brain
>> surgeon?
>>
>> Remember, not even Jesus' dear (and five months plus one day older)
>> first-cousin John the Baptist recognized Jesus for who He is,
>> until Jesus was baptised in their 30th year. No more spiritually adept
>> man had ever walked the face of the earth i.e. _before_ John
>> the Baptist. Do you expect to recognize Truth more easily than Jesus'
>> cousin did?
>>
>> Why then would any man seek God's Truth from mortal men who mislead
>> (even as they themselves were misled by those who went before
>> them)? It would be more fruitful to preach to the birds, or fields of
>> corn.
>>
>> Hope that helps,
>> Daniel Joseph Min
>> http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x2B1CCFE7
>>
>> *Download Min's Banned (Freeware) Books:
>> http://www.2hot2cool.com/11/danieljosephmin/
>>
>> *Min's Spiritual I.Q. Test (how smart are you, really):
>> http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=HCRHGLQM38786.0401967593
> @[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> us.poster
>>
>> *Min's Google-Archived Home Page On The WWW:
>> http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=XJBDEJF138262.9022453704
> @[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> us.poster
>>
>>
>
>
> A lot of Christianity and what Christians are taught, is in error.
> If you wish to get to the truth of the matter, read the
> following references...
>
> This is not a religion as such, but is information. And correct
> information
> is the 'truth'. Consistant information that makes sense.
>
> Be warned the truth is controversial, because the truth has been hidden
> for so long, that it will appear to be startling and strange at first,
> until you reason it all out. Work it out...
>
>
> The Talmud Jmmanuel
> http://www.avilabooks.com/Jmmanuel.htm
> http://www.tjresearch.info/overview.htm
> http://www.tjresearch.info/tjheresy.htm
> http://www.tjresearch.info/EdMartin.htm
> http://www.semjase.net/index_en.html
> http://www.semjase.net/semjeng10.html
> http://plain2.tripod.com/tj.txt
This is the actual do***ent in question,
> has an excellent introduction.
>
> I thoroughly recomend the top one, which contains a summary of the key
> points - there is about 5 pages, I recomend skimming it through and
> reading the stuff you would agree with, and then slowly absorb the rest,
> over time.
> I believe this encomp***** the key foundation stones that should be
> taught to children growing up - real meat and
> potatoes stuff for the brain/psyche/spirit/personality to absorb, which
> with re-reading you will gain more and more insight.
> A lot of religion is basically 'fluff' material of no real substance,
> that makes no sense. Real knowledge and wisdom is different.
> Your own spirit will present much the same kind of information, like
> this to you - as you learn from your own life experiences and musings.
>
> You can read the summaries and introduction...
Gabriel is a created thing.
The Holy Spirit on the other hand, is God.
The two are the very best of friends, however, and are only one place
apart
in greatness.
|
