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Re: IS THERE A REAL GOD???

by "Tom P" <th_om_as_p@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Dec 17, 2005 at 03:59 PM

"Pastor Frank" <PastorFrank@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> "TomP" <t-h_om_as_p@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>
>> Assuming the first duty and reason for existence of every government is
>> to
>> protect the lives of its citizens, the state that murders in the name
of
>> religion has no moral or legitimate right to exist.   This is hard
stuff.
>> At least for me it is.
>>
>    You seem to forget that we are basically well-armed and very smart
> Simians, who are well able to destroy all life on earth.

How smart is suicide?

> Religion is designed to allow us to live peaceably on an overcrowded
> planet. Does it surprise you, that at times ruthless Simians gather to
> kill other weaker Simians, despite religion?

No. Religion sometimes moderates human conduct.  There is little evidence
that religion directs human conduct, I think.

> Does it surprise you to find, that religious leaders on the whole
sup****t
> such shock and awe rampages, though it's totally against what the
> originators of religions preached?

No. Should it?

>    Once suicide bombers are able to retaliate by infiltrating our cities
> with small back-pack battle nukes and kill millions, civilization as we
> know it will come to a stop and our Simian nature will take over again,
> where it's every man for himself. In the absence of religious
restraints,
> small but well-armed "tribal" groups will roam the countryside to kill
and
> pillage for food and the prophesies below will come true.

Didn't Thomas Hobbes and Rousseau talk about that scenario?  Only atthe
beginning?
>
> Pastor Frank
>
>    PROPHETIC APOCALYPSE, (The N-U-C-L-E-A-R consequence of the
abomination
> above and others like it, employing great noise and heat that can melt
> elements, scorch people and destroy the "works of man" on a massive
scale)
>     2Pt:3:10: But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night;
> in
> the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the
elements
> shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are
> therein
> shall be burned up.
>    2Pt:3:12: Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God,
> wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements
> shall
> melt with fervent heat?
>    Mk:13:8: For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against
> kingdom: and there shall be earthquakes in divers places, and there
shall
> be
> famines and troubles: these are the beginnings of sorrows.
>    Mt:24:21-22: For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not
since
> the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be. And
except
> those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for
> the
> elect's sake those days shall be shortened.
>    Jesus in Matt. 24:16-22: Then let them which be in Judea flee into
the
> mountains: Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any
> thing
> out of his house: Neither let him which is in the field return back to
> take
> his clothes. And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that
give
> suck in those days! But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter,
> neither on the Sabbath day: For then shall be great tribulation, such as
> was
> not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall
be.
> And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be
saved:
> but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.
>    Jesus in Matt 34:29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days
> shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light.
(Nuclear
> Winter)
>    Jesus in Lk:23:30: Then shall they begin to say to the mountains:
Fall
> on us! And to the hills: Cover us!
>    Rev 6: 15-17 Then the kings of the earth, the princes, the generals,
> the
> rich, the mighty, and every slave and every free man hid in caves and
> among
> the rocks of the mountains.  They called to the mountains and the rocks,
> "Fall on us and hide us from the face of him who sits on the throne and
> from
> the wrath of the Lamb!  For the great day of their wrath has come, and
who
> can stand?"
>    Rv:16:9: And men were scorched with great heat, and blasphemed the
name
> of God, which hath power over these plagues: and they repented not to
give
> him glory.
>
>
>
>
 




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Re: IS THERE A REAL GOD???
"Pastor Frank"   2005-12-12 20:59:09 
Re: IS THERE A REAL GOD???
"Tom P" <th_  2005-12-17 15:59:37 

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